I will just copy and paste a conversation I had with a freind to tell you guys how my day went.
i'm apparently determined to eat things that i KNOW will make me sick
Cheetah: ugh
stay up so late as to sleep horribly
Cheetah: ugh
walk around in the rain til my shoes are soaked through
Cheetah: ugh - did that one too - no fun
skip class that gets cancelled because i iddn't finish the paper in time
Cheetah: yeah
and just generally ignore my hw til it's nearly time to turn it in
*siiiiiiigh*
Cheetah: *hugs*
*hugglies*
Cheetah: ...it sounds like your day was kinda shitty, to state the obvious
yeah....
but i had a nice walk in the rain with a nice boy that also liked the rain
i got to eat donuts and croissants
Cheetah: true.
the coffee was made perfectly
had fun being grabbed and breaking free
Cheetah: ok, fine, there were good things too. you still get a hug.
lol
see.....i feel pretty amused overall
but not happy
and not sad
Cheetah: I see.
so it's difficult to decide what kind of day i had
Cheetah: yeah
If you can't tell already, I'm the one without anything in front of it. Cheetah is a friend. That was more work than I anticipated. I'm gonna go do philosophy and lookit the other homework I have to decide what I want to do. I may just sleep and let all the other things be. This week is so hectic, and I have to fit in time to write a difficult paper and a visit to my house, where my entire family has had the swine flu. Apparently, after having had it once, you're actually MORE likely to get it again!! AUGH!
I don't even know what video this is, it's just the most recent one I've watched.
Monday, September 28, 2009
Interlude with cleverbot
I think a computer just had a sexual innuendo moment with me. It was ....interesting. And I SOOO wanna see the dirty conversation collegekid had with the cleverbot. My excerpt:
Cleverbot: Trying to have a conversation with a robot?
User: Apparently.
Cleverbot: Agreed.
User: Did you just end the conversation?
Cleverbot: No, but I'm just about to have one.
User: With me?
Cleverbot: Yes.
.................................................
Cleverbot: Trying to have a conversation with a robot?
User: Apparently.
Cleverbot: Agreed.
User: Did you just end the conversation?
Cleverbot: No, but I'm just about to have one.
User: With me?
Cleverbot: Yes.
.................................................
Wednesday, September 23, 2009
So at nearly Two in the morning, with nearly zero percent of my homework done, I will post at the behest of pineapples
Yeah, that was a REALLY long title. ^_^
So, I'm thinking I could start posting drabbles on ff.net. I'm not a big writer, but I do like to write occasionally. Sometimes it just bursts out of me, and other times it just kinda....sometimes, it's just like a bathroom session. You start, then stop, then feel like it was pretty crappy to go through all that trouble for such a little bit, then it suddenly starts again, and you're like 'Hmmm, I guess that wasn't too bad' and then it'll stop again, and then start again, and in the end, you're just all-around pessimistic about the whole experience. Ummm....next topic....
So, like mentioned in the incredibly long title, I am behind in my homework tonight. It's interesting. See, I wouldn't be, but I went to a 'gig' of some of RB's friends, and that was from like, 8-11, and then when I came back, I spent alot of time reading this fanfiction that I've been becoming steadily more and more engrossed in lately. It was surprisingly good. I then felt the need to shower, and I got a bit of reading done for a class tomorrow during that, (yes, I read in the shower. You know you WISH you could have my reading skills) and then got out and just ....really didn't feel like doing homework.
I don't want to read my philosophy!!! It's so...ANNOYING lately, and I missed the last class. I found out from a classmate later that day that all the big speakers were absent and they spent a good portion of class looking at cats....*shrug* Don't ask me, I wasn't there, but I also don't see the correlation between Cats and Leibniz, if that makes you feel any better. I usually like my philosophy class above all others, but...idk, I guess it's due to my first total miss. See, the reason I missed was.........
The day before, in Self Defense class, I fought my teacher. Now, my teacher is a big man, you can ask collegekid. He's seen him. This big old hunking guy, was strapped in pads that looked like hockey equipment, minus the leg and arm pads, and plus being fully bright red. When a big red diaper guy comes at you, you're IMMEDIATELY like "WTF????" and respond. My response was to get him away from myself, via a face-palm, but I'm not good at following up, because....well damn, would you follow a diaper-guy when he's finally getting away from you? Well, okay, so I figured I should probably do something after he's grabbing his face, so I'd typically say, "Oh yeah!" and run up to him, and kick/knee him in the head/groin/chest. Well, about the second time I did a follow-up, I kicked him, but I landed badly on my good ankle, and I fell, twisting it as I fell. It hurt quite a bit, but he was still in bad-guy mode, so I used my already hurting ankle to kick him in the gut/chest and he finally stopped coming after me. He complimented me on continuing to fight after I fell, saying that "You are gonna fall in a fight. The important thing is to NOT give up and go into the fetal position." He then realized I still hadn't gotten up. I wasn't sure I COULD. About then, he realized I was hurt, and started asking if I need ice or anything, and I told him if he'd help me up, I could probably walk it off (LIES!!!!!) so he did. He then threw punches at me so I wouldn't have to move/kick/run from him. I got more compliments on my quick reflexes, and felt pretty good about myself, even if my ankle made tears prick my eyes. I then had ten minutes to get a class a good quarter mile away. *sigh* Life is SO unfair sometimes. I was kept running that day. Anyways, the next day,
I woke up 20 minutes before my Philosophy class, that happens to be in a building about as far from my room as you can get and still have both ON campus. It just was NOT happening, so I gave up that class, cause of my ankle, and just went to the last three. It was interesting.
I made my Christmas wishlist. I'm not sure how Christmas is going to play out this year, with two cousins having moved up here, and bf, and Papa, and just....well, everything. *shrug* I don't know, I kinda don't really wanna be home for it this year....but I also can't really help being excited about it.
Which reminds me, RB and I went shopping for Halloween costumes this weekend. She got an AMAZING costume as a vampiress, and I still think I'll go as a gothic chick. Long sleeved black shirt with skulls? YESH, that is totally up my alley. Excessively heavy make-up that is very dark and morbid? Any excuse, please. Able to talk shit about whatever and not have to explain it? .....Did you really need to ask?
Also, on the subject of RB, she is in a fraternity, and two of the guys that have been playing dick-measuring games using her as a ruler, have both tried to kiss her this past week. I'm thinking I may have to hurt someone. The only problem is, (teary face) no one sees me as a threat..... They think I am 'cute, sweet, and funny'. My thoughts? 0_o...?!?!?!?!? I don't get it....I guess that's just the 'air' I give off, but seriously, I'm not sweet, I'm sadistic, I'm not cute! and I'm....well, I'm only moderately funny, even in the best conditions. *siiiiiigh* I don't know how to threaten them without physical violence or mental scarring, and I don't think I should do that to RB's brothers without extreme provocation.... It's a bit of a conundrum.
Okay, so as for the rain. On Tuesday, I totally couldn't sleep, and so I went to the trouble to straighten my hair. Yes, it's already straight. Straightening my hair makes it much thinner, easier to manage, shinier, and even longer (yes, that is possible). I went through all that stuff, cause you KNOW my hair is long, and 15 minutes later, the rain starts. Yes, yes it did. I went to sleep, got up, made it through the three classes I attended, and AS SOON AS I got out of my last class, the rain POURED. I was fine with that, cause I love the rain, and didn't think about the trouble I went through to get my hair like that at first. Then I remembered, and it was already too late, so I shrugged it off. and THEN I stupidly stood in the rain 'begging' for change for Habitat for Humanity, and completely soaked my clothes. When I say soaked, I don't mean I got moderately wet, to where my hair was dripping a little. I mean, chilled to the bone, clothes hanging from the weight of the rain, plastered to my body, hair fully wet as though just out of the shower and dripping, and COLD. I was so very cold that I didn't know how to get warm other than to take a really hot shower. And that hot shower felt oh so good. It set me to rights, finally. I don't think bf fully understood just how cold and wet I was. If I had jumped into a pool fully clothed, I could not have gotten much wetter than I already was. It was kinda horrible, and I'll definitely revise my policy on leaving people standing in the rain begging for money. I'll take them out to eat a restaurant, shopping for a jacket to help, whatever I can, cause that just isn't cool.
Okay, I've spent thirty minutes on this, and I really can't spend much more time on it. I need to get my hw done and turned in, so I love ya'll, I'm sorry it's been so long, and you can thank pineapples, and indirectly (cause he caused me to call her up in the first place) bf, for this random post. ^_^ Hope to see comments, but it's okay regardless. Goodnight!
Just kinda freaky:
So, I'm thinking I could start posting drabbles on ff.net. I'm not a big writer, but I do like to write occasionally. Sometimes it just bursts out of me, and other times it just kinda....sometimes, it's just like a bathroom session. You start, then stop, then feel like it was pretty crappy to go through all that trouble for such a little bit, then it suddenly starts again, and you're like 'Hmmm, I guess that wasn't too bad' and then it'll stop again, and then start again, and in the end, you're just all-around pessimistic about the whole experience. Ummm....next topic....
So, like mentioned in the incredibly long title, I am behind in my homework tonight. It's interesting. See, I wouldn't be, but I went to a 'gig' of some of RB's friends, and that was from like, 8-11, and then when I came back, I spent alot of time reading this fanfiction that I've been becoming steadily more and more engrossed in lately. It was surprisingly good. I then felt the need to shower, and I got a bit of reading done for a class tomorrow during that, (yes, I read in the shower. You know you WISH you could have my reading skills) and then got out and just ....really didn't feel like doing homework.
I don't want to read my philosophy!!! It's so...ANNOYING lately, and I missed the last class. I found out from a classmate later that day that all the big speakers were absent and they spent a good portion of class looking at cats....*shrug* Don't ask me, I wasn't there, but I also don't see the correlation between Cats and Leibniz, if that makes you feel any better. I usually like my philosophy class above all others, but...idk, I guess it's due to my first total miss. See, the reason I missed was.........
The day before, in Self Defense class, I fought my teacher. Now, my teacher is a big man, you can ask collegekid. He's seen him. This big old hunking guy, was strapped in pads that looked like hockey equipment, minus the leg and arm pads, and plus being fully bright red. When a big red diaper guy comes at you, you're IMMEDIATELY like "WTF????" and respond. My response was to get him away from myself, via a face-palm, but I'm not good at following up, because....well damn, would you follow a diaper-guy when he's finally getting away from you? Well, okay, so I figured I should probably do something after he's grabbing his face, so I'd typically say, "Oh yeah!" and run up to him, and kick/knee him in the head/groin/chest. Well, about the second time I did a follow-up, I kicked him, but I landed badly on my good ankle, and I fell, twisting it as I fell. It hurt quite a bit, but he was still in bad-guy mode, so I used my already hurting ankle to kick him in the gut/chest and he finally stopped coming after me. He complimented me on continuing to fight after I fell, saying that "You are gonna fall in a fight. The important thing is to NOT give up and go into the fetal position." He then realized I still hadn't gotten up. I wasn't sure I COULD. About then, he realized I was hurt, and started asking if I need ice or anything, and I told him if he'd help me up, I could probably walk it off (LIES!!!!!) so he did. He then threw punches at me so I wouldn't have to move/kick/run from him. I got more compliments on my quick reflexes, and felt pretty good about myself, even if my ankle made tears prick my eyes. I then had ten minutes to get a class a good quarter mile away. *sigh* Life is SO unfair sometimes. I was kept running that day. Anyways, the next day,
I woke up 20 minutes before my Philosophy class, that happens to be in a building about as far from my room as you can get and still have both ON campus. It just was NOT happening, so I gave up that class, cause of my ankle, and just went to the last three. It was interesting.
I made my Christmas wishlist. I'm not sure how Christmas is going to play out this year, with two cousins having moved up here, and bf, and Papa, and just....well, everything. *shrug* I don't know, I kinda don't really wanna be home for it this year....but I also can't really help being excited about it.
Which reminds me, RB and I went shopping for Halloween costumes this weekend. She got an AMAZING costume as a vampiress, and I still think I'll go as a gothic chick. Long sleeved black shirt with skulls? YESH, that is totally up my alley. Excessively heavy make-up that is very dark and morbid? Any excuse, please. Able to talk shit about whatever and not have to explain it? .....Did you really need to ask?
Also, on the subject of RB, she is in a fraternity, and two of the guys that have been playing dick-measuring games using her as a ruler, have both tried to kiss her this past week. I'm thinking I may have to hurt someone. The only problem is, (teary face) no one sees me as a threat..... They think I am 'cute, sweet, and funny'. My thoughts? 0_o...?!?!?!?!? I don't get it....I guess that's just the 'air' I give off, but seriously, I'm not sweet, I'm sadistic, I'm not cute! and I'm....well, I'm only moderately funny, even in the best conditions. *siiiiiigh* I don't know how to threaten them without physical violence or mental scarring, and I don't think I should do that to RB's brothers without extreme provocation.... It's a bit of a conundrum.
Okay, so as for the rain. On Tuesday, I totally couldn't sleep, and so I went to the trouble to straighten my hair. Yes, it's already straight. Straightening my hair makes it much thinner, easier to manage, shinier, and even longer (yes, that is possible). I went through all that stuff, cause you KNOW my hair is long, and 15 minutes later, the rain starts. Yes, yes it did. I went to sleep, got up, made it through the three classes I attended, and AS SOON AS I got out of my last class, the rain POURED. I was fine with that, cause I love the rain, and didn't think about the trouble I went through to get my hair like that at first. Then I remembered, and it was already too late, so I shrugged it off. and THEN I stupidly stood in the rain 'begging' for change for Habitat for Humanity, and completely soaked my clothes. When I say soaked, I don't mean I got moderately wet, to where my hair was dripping a little. I mean, chilled to the bone, clothes hanging from the weight of the rain, plastered to my body, hair fully wet as though just out of the shower and dripping, and COLD. I was so very cold that I didn't know how to get warm other than to take a really hot shower. And that hot shower felt oh so good. It set me to rights, finally. I don't think bf fully understood just how cold and wet I was. If I had jumped into a pool fully clothed, I could not have gotten much wetter than I already was. It was kinda horrible, and I'll definitely revise my policy on leaving people standing in the rain begging for money. I'll take them out to eat a restaurant, shopping for a jacket to help, whatever I can, cause that just isn't cool.
Okay, I've spent thirty minutes on this, and I really can't spend much more time on it. I need to get my hw done and turned in, so I love ya'll, I'm sorry it's been so long, and you can thank pineapples, and indirectly (cause he caused me to call her up in the first place) bf, for this random post. ^_^ Hope to see comments, but it's okay regardless. Goodnight!
Just kinda freaky:
Friday, September 18, 2009
Blurf
So, it's been interesting lately. I haven't seen my roommate since Wednesday, I'm freezing once again at work, even though I'm wearing a sweater and T-shirt, I've been feeling rather sick, but I think I'll miss out on the clinic in favor of getting sleep, and I can't concentrate well enough to get any homework done.
I have four total papers due in the next month. If that long. I really wanna get to work on them now, but I can't concentrate. I think the majority of my school is sick because so many kids are just NOT THERE in any of my classes.
I have a freind that has emotional problems and really tempts me to be mean and say things that I only halfway mean. I won't expound on those because....well, cause it's mean.
I haven't been eating properly. My stomach rebels, but then cries for food, and then is like "Oh no you di'in" (no that is not a mistake). I don't know, its weird and I think I'm making too big of a deal about it.
A freind pointed out that her hair is longer than mine today....it bothered me....and I don't care either, so I don't understand.
It's bf's father's birthday this coming week, so this weekend he'll be going home again. V-V can't really say I care too much. It means I can sleep and eat and sleep, I suppose, but .....oh well. It means I never have to leave my room, and I can prolly go to the bookstore for the day without any trouble. *shrug* I just kinda wanted to see him. It's fine though.
I'm exaughsted. Have you ever read something and become totally immersed? Tramps Like Us (Kimi wa PEtto) is doing that for me right now. I LOVE this story so far. ^////^ It's an amazing story. And afew more chapters are added every day. It's amazing. lol. I'm gonna do my job properly now. ^_^ Bye byes~
Oh, right! First, YAY for deals! A Mr. told me that if I would watch his stuff for him, he would give me a free drink! Yay! And this video is pretty interesting.
I have four total papers due in the next month. If that long. I really wanna get to work on them now, but I can't concentrate. I think the majority of my school is sick because so many kids are just NOT THERE in any of my classes.
I have a freind that has emotional problems and really tempts me to be mean and say things that I only halfway mean. I won't expound on those because....well, cause it's mean.
I haven't been eating properly. My stomach rebels, but then cries for food, and then is like "Oh no you di'in" (no that is not a mistake). I don't know, its weird and I think I'm making too big of a deal about it.
A freind pointed out that her hair is longer than mine today....it bothered me....and I don't care either, so I don't understand.
It's bf's father's birthday this coming week, so this weekend he'll be going home again. V-V can't really say I care too much. It means I can sleep and eat and sleep, I suppose, but .....oh well. It means I never have to leave my room, and I can prolly go to the bookstore for the day without any trouble. *shrug* I just kinda wanted to see him. It's fine though.
I'm exaughsted. Have you ever read something and become totally immersed? Tramps Like Us (Kimi wa PEtto) is doing that for me right now. I LOVE this story so far. ^////^ It's an amazing story. And afew more chapters are added every day. It's amazing. lol. I'm gonna do my job properly now. ^_^ Bye byes~
Oh, right! First, YAY for deals! A Mr. told me that if I would watch his stuff for him, he would give me a free drink! Yay! And this video is pretty interesting.
Saturday, September 5, 2009
Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeep
is about ALL that I've done today. Well, that's not QUITE true:
-Stayed up and ate breakie with bf and sorta RB this morning.
-Sent bf off to work since he didn't want to go.
-Sat around reading for a while.
-RB came back, I left at 10 30 for a meeting that wasn't until 11 30. It took 15 minutes to get there.... (#*$&%&^%*$$)
-Blogged a little in a hurry.
-Returned home after buying breakfast for RB and myself. *Yuummm scones*
-Could only eat half of my scone, went to sleep. TT-TT
-Woke up to meeting one of our boyfreinds from upstairs...I waved and said my name, and drifted back off to sleep.
-Woke up to RB leaving for class.....drifted off....
-Woke up to bf waiting at the door. (How long was he waiting....?) YAY!
-Played with bf for maybe 20-30 minutes, then his parents picked him up from my place....booooo
-Went back to sleep....til I woke up to RB leaving for work
-Went back to sleep...til I had to use the restroom...then I felt like being up...
-Got up, read a bit, felt like showering, figured I should eat, so!
-Fixed dinner, left it to 'cook' and 'cool'
-Took a shower, ended up incredibly hungry by the time I got out
-Ate a few bites, and felt sick. Had to eat really slowly, even though my tummy was rumbling so much. *sniffle sniffle*
-Drank Ginger Ale to help it get settled.
-Got tired again, so went back to bed
-Woke up to RB asking if I wanted anything to eat from her job...I declined...tummy too unpredictable....
-Woke up to roomie coming in....and showering....i wanted to talk to her...but my mind was so fuzzy....
-Sleeeeeept
-Woke to my alarm, snoozed, woke, snoozed, got up!
-Ate some olives and cheese. (Odd, but interesting. I thought I could keep them down)
-Also got two croissants out and ate them, but it was so loud opening them that I felt really bad....RB had just gone to bed a little earlier
-Came in to work to discover that the computer was down and the person i was relieving wasn't very adept with technology. *sigh* we fixed it, but I had to log for her and it seemed like I logged in late again.....*cry*
-Am eating mochi right now, and just drank the rest of my 20 ounce bottle of water.....*sigh* i need to go refill it....but TJ is talking to me.
Yeps, that's everything for me today! Just about....*shrug* No biggie, right? Tons of sleepage, and a little bit of eating, and slight consciousness. Now I have a slight headache, and I'm still really tired....but I'm meeting up with AS tomorrow at Crabtree Valley mall. YAY!
Hmmm....I'm gonna find a video to put up. My blog has been boring lately. AND WHY IS MY JOB ALWAYS SO DAMN COLD?!?!??!?!?!
Interesting...the Dub is horrible, but I bet the correct language would make all the difference:
Music Video as usual. I love how they say "Bad":
-Stayed up and ate breakie with bf and sorta RB this morning.
-Sent bf off to work since he didn't want to go.
-Sat around reading for a while.
-RB came back, I left at 10 30 for a meeting that wasn't until 11 30. It took 15 minutes to get there.... (#*$&%&^%*$$)
-Blogged a little in a hurry.
-Returned home after buying breakfast for RB and myself. *Yuummm scones*
-Could only eat half of my scone, went to sleep. TT-TT
-Woke up to meeting one of our boyfreinds from upstairs...I waved and said my name, and drifted back off to sleep.
-Woke up to RB leaving for class.....drifted off....
-Woke up to bf waiting at the door. (How long was he waiting....?) YAY!
-Played with bf for maybe 20-30 minutes, then his parents picked him up from my place....booooo
-Went back to sleep....til I woke up to RB leaving for work
-Went back to sleep...til I had to use the restroom...then I felt like being up...
-Got up, read a bit, felt like showering, figured I should eat, so!
-Fixed dinner, left it to 'cook' and 'cool'
-Took a shower, ended up incredibly hungry by the time I got out
-Ate a few bites, and felt sick. Had to eat really slowly, even though my tummy was rumbling so much. *sniffle sniffle*
-Drank Ginger Ale to help it get settled.
-Got tired again, so went back to bed
-Woke up to RB asking if I wanted anything to eat from her job...I declined...tummy too unpredictable....
-Woke up to roomie coming in....and showering....i wanted to talk to her...but my mind was so fuzzy....
-Sleeeeeept
-Woke to my alarm, snoozed, woke, snoozed, got up!
-Ate some olives and cheese. (Odd, but interesting. I thought I could keep them down)
-Also got two croissants out and ate them, but it was so loud opening them that I felt really bad....RB had just gone to bed a little earlier
-Came in to work to discover that the computer was down and the person i was relieving wasn't very adept with technology. *sigh* we fixed it, but I had to log for her and it seemed like I logged in late again.....*cry*
-Am eating mochi right now, and just drank the rest of my 20 ounce bottle of water.....*sigh* i need to go refill it....but TJ is talking to me.
Yeps, that's everything for me today! Just about....*shrug* No biggie, right? Tons of sleepage, and a little bit of eating, and slight consciousness. Now I have a slight headache, and I'm still really tired....but I'm meeting up with AS tomorrow at Crabtree Valley mall. YAY!
Hmmm....I'm gonna find a video to put up. My blog has been boring lately. AND WHY IS MY JOB ALWAYS SO DAMN COLD?!?!??!?!?!
Interesting...the Dub is horrible, but I bet the correct language would make all the difference:
Music Video as usual. I love how they say "Bad":
Friday, September 4, 2009
Props to rozy
For remaining steadfast in updates. I really feel like I'm only missing a little bit of your life, even though we're not together anymore~ I'm sorry you had it so rough earlier this week, and I'm happy you can relax this weekend. ^_^
Random sentences that won't make much sense cause I don't have much time:
-I showed up 45 minutes early to my Study Abroad Meeting. KASEDFJW$%(#$^
-If Rozy goes abroad, and I get accepted, we might be in Japan at the same time. *Super excited about that*
-I made miso soup out of miso paste and seaweed today....it was special
-I'm still feeling rather sick, but I'm also still not willing to admit that I'm so sick I need to go get checked out.
-AS might be coming up tomorrow so I'll get to play with someone.
-I prolly won't go home this weekend, but I might.
-Two of the Three shifts I need covered next week are now taken. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping someone will email me about the other one. I REALLY wanna go on that beach trip
-I'm keeping abreast of my homework!! It feels great!! I feel like I'm imitating bf though....which feels not-so-great
-I need sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
-I need to go so I can get to that *#$&%*$* Study Abroad Meeting.
*YAAAAAAAY* for UPDATES
Random sentences that won't make much sense cause I don't have much time:
-I showed up 45 minutes early to my Study Abroad Meeting. KASEDFJW$%(#$^
-If Rozy goes abroad, and I get accepted, we might be in Japan at the same time. *Super excited about that*
-I made miso soup out of miso paste and seaweed today....it was special
-I'm still feeling rather sick, but I'm also still not willing to admit that I'm so sick I need to go get checked out.
-AS might be coming up tomorrow so I'll get to play with someone.
-I prolly won't go home this weekend, but I might.
-Two of the Three shifts I need covered next week are now taken. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping someone will email me about the other one. I REALLY wanna go on that beach trip
-I'm keeping abreast of my homework!! It feels great!! I feel like I'm imitating bf though....which feels not-so-great
-I need sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
-I need to go so I can get to that *#$&%*$* Study Abroad Meeting.
*YAAAAAAAY* for UPDATES
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